Suffered – Listorati https://listorati.com Fascinating facts and lists, bizarre, wonderful, and fun Sun, 23 Nov 2025 16:10:55 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 https://listorati.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/listorati-512x512-1.png Suffered – Listorati https://listorati.com 32 32 215494684 10 Bands Suffered: Vicious Feuds That Shook Rock History https://listorati.com/10-bands-suffered-vicious-feuds-rock-history/ https://listorati.com/10-bands-suffered-vicious-feuds-rock-history/#respond Fri, 17 Jan 2025 04:40:10 +0000 https://listorati.com/10-bands-that-suffered-through-vicious-internal-feuds/

When you think of rock stardom, the image that pops up is usually one of endless parties, massive crowds, and a bank account that never seems to empty. Yet, behind the glittering façade, the very same musicians who command stadium‑sized adoration often find themselves locked in relentless battles with the very people they share the spotlight with. In fact, the 10 bands suffered some of the most vicious internal feuds the music world has ever witnessed – feuds that have led to lawsuits, on‑stage meltdowns, and even permanent line‑up changes. Let’s dive into each of these explosive stories, rank‑ordered from the most recent to the earliest, and see how fame can sometimes be a double‑edged sword.

10 Bands Suffered: Inside the Feuds

10 Metallica

The early days of Metallica were anything but harmonious. The band’s first major rupture came when guitarist Dave Mustaine was shown the door for what the group described as a severe substance‑abuse problem. Mustaine, however, never let the dismissal go quietly; he later founded Megadeth and repeatedly voiced his bitterness toward his former bandmates. The 2004 documentary Metallica: Some Kind of Monster captures a heated exchange where Mustaine confronts drummer Lars Ulrich about being “canned,” while Ulrich retorts that Mustaine never contributed to a Metallica record and urges him to move past the old wounds.

Metallica’s internal strife didn’t stop there. Bassist Jason Newsted, who joined in the late ’80s, sought a hiatus in 2000 to pursue a solo project. Frontman James Hetfield denied the request, insisting Newsted stay the course. Feeling stifled, Newsted quit and later admitted he never forgave Hetfield for blocking his creative freedom. Their clash illustrates how even the most successful line‑ups can fracture under the pressure of divergent ambitions.

9 Hall & Oates

For decades Daryl Hall and John Oates were seen as the quintessential pop duo, churning out hits and sharing the limelight. Yet, in 2023, the partnership took a legal turn when Hall filed a temporary restraining order to block Oates from selling his half of their joint music catalog. Hall claimed the move threatened his control over the duo’s legacy, while Oates brushed it off as a routine business decision.

In an interview with Billboard Magazine, Hall explained that their creative collaboration had effectively ended around the turn of the millennium, noting, “The last song I wrote with John was in 2000, and that was with somebody else.” He described their touring schedule as “restrictive” and lamented that Oates had simply walked away without making the breakup easy. Oates, on his side, expressed surprise at Hall’s reaction, emphasizing that the sale of his share was a standard business move. The legal showdown thrust their long‑standing tension into the public eye, signaling a bitter end to what was once a harmonious partnership.

8 Black Sabbath

Just as Black Sabbath was gearing up for a reunion, drummer Bill Ward found himself at odds with the rest of the group over what he called an “unreasonable contract.” Feeling undervalued, Ward opted out of the reunion album and launched a public feud with frontman Ozzy Osbourne. In a heartfelt statement, Ward demanded public accountability from Osbourne for alleged false statements, insisting on a direct, public amendment rather than a corporate response.

Ozzy never issued the public apology Ward sought. The band pressed on, performing their final shows in 2017 without Ward, who was notably absent. While Ozzy acknowledged the “bittersweet” nature of Ward’s absence, the dispute remained unresolved, leaving the legendary group’s legacy tinged with unresolved resentment.

7 Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd’s internal discord peaked in the mid‑1980s when bassist‑turned‑songwriter Roger Waters clashed with his bandmates over creative direction. After years of mounting tension, Waters left the group in 1985 and promptly sued to dissolve the band, arguing that continuing without him would be an insult to their collective legacy.

Waters famously likened the situation to “Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr touring as The Beatles,” asserting that using the Pink Floyd name without his input was sacrilegious. After a protracted legal battle, the parties reached an agreement, and Waters later admitted regret over taking the dispute to court. Though cooler heads eventually prevailed, the feud remains one of rock’s most infamous legal battles.

6 Guns N’ Rose

Axl Rose and Slash’s rivalry dates back to the band’s inception, but it reached a boiling point in the early ’90s when Slash agreed to perform with Michael Jackson, who was then embroiled in child‑abuse allegations. Axl, who had personally endured abuse as a child, vehemently opposed the collaboration, viewing it as a betrayal of moral principles.

By 1996, tensions escalated during contract renegotiations, prompting Slash to quit the band altogether. The two remained estranged for nearly two decades until a tentative reconciliation began in 2015, culminating in a limited tour together. Slash later reflected that the “black cloud” of their feud had finally lifted, allowing them to move forward.

5 Blink‑182

Blink‑182’s first major breakup came in 2005, driven by personal differences and mounting pressures among the trio. The group seemed unlikely to reunite until a near‑fatal plane crash in 2008 that claimed drummer Travis Barker’s life forced a reassessment of priorities. Barker later told the Daily Beast that the brush with death made the band realize “life’s short,” prompting a heartfelt reunion.

After several years together, another split occurred in 2015 when guitarist Tom DeLonge’s departure sparked controversy. While the remaining members claimed DeLonge left to pursue “non‑music endeavors,” DeLonge insisted he was forced out. The band continued touring with Matt Skiba filling in, and a further health scare in 2021—Mark Hoppus’s cancer diagnosis—once again reunited the original trio for a 2022 tour and new recordings.

4 Van Halen

Van Halen’s internal strife began almost as soon as they hit the big time, with frontman David Lee Roth and guitarist Eddie Van Hallen constantly at odds over creative control and image. In 1984, Roth left to pursue a solo career, publicly lambasting Eddie for “abandoning” him, while Eddie responded that Roth’s focus on acting and solo projects was the real issue.

Eddie later brought in Sammy Hagar as Roth’s replacement, achieving commercial success with the new lineup. After a decade‑long feud, the two finally reconciled in 2007, rejoining forces for a period before Eddie’s eventual passing from throat‑cancer complications.

3 Oasis

The Gallagher brothers made headlines worldwide for their volatile relationship. Their first public feud erupted in 1994 when they openly declared hatred for each other in an NME interview. Over the years, their battles intensified, culminating in a 2009 incident where Liam trashed a dressing room and smashed Noel’s guitar, prompting Noel to quit the band.

Since then, both brothers have continued to hurl insults at each other in interviews and on social media. The feud even escalated to a libel lawsuit filed by Liam against Noel, which was later dropped after an apology. Their ongoing rivalry remains one of rock’s most enduring sibling sagas.

2 Journey

Journey’s internal drama largely centers on vocalist Steve Perry, who first joined in 1977. Perry later confessed that the band’s dynamics quickly soured, leading him to leave after a decade of feeling detached from his own music. He rejoined in 1996, only to be forced out again due to a severe hip injury that prevented him from touring.

After Perry’s final departure, the band faced further discord. In 2022, guitarist Neal Schon sent a cease‑and‑desist letter to keyboardist Jonathan Cain after Cain performed “Don’t Stop Believin’” at Donald Trump’s Mar‑a‑Lago estate. Two years later, during Journey’s 50th‑anniversary tour, Schon and Cain clashed over financial management of the tour’s company, resulting in public statements about “fundamental disagreements” and a few canceled dates.

1 Jane’s Addiction

Jane’s Addiction’s latest drama unfolded in September 2024 when frontman Perry Farrell attempted to assault guitarist Dave Navarro onstage during a concert. The altercation was halted when security restrained Farrell, and his wife later explained that the band’s excessively loud mix had left Farrell with severe tinnitus, a sore throat, and a breaking point.

Farrell issued a public apology, acknowledging his “inexcusable behavior” and taking full responsibility. The incident escalated when bassist Eric Avery also punched Farrell in the stomach. Within 24 hours, the band announced an indefinite hiatus and canceled the remainder of their 2024 tour dates, a decision many fans welcomed as a necessary step toward healing.

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Historical Cities That Have Suffered Awful Fates https://listorati.com/historical-cities-that-have-suffered-awful-fates/ https://listorati.com/historical-cities-that-have-suffered-awful-fates/#respond Sun, 26 Feb 2023 20:59:24 +0000 https://listorati.com/historical-cities-that-have-suffered-awful-fates/

We envision the history of our cities to be a step-by-step sequence of accomplishments, from small settlements to towns to the sprawling metropolises we see today. The darker parts are remembered as merely interludes – ‘dark ages’ – in the grand story, when in reality those dark ages have had a much larger impact on the course of our history than most periods of peace and prosperity.

10. Delhi

Timur, or Tamerlane, was one of the more successful Turko-Mongol rulers that swept across Asia in the aftermath of the Mongol conquests. At its extent in the 15th century, the Timurid empire stretched from Russia to the southern coast of Iran. The Timurid Renaissance – a golden age of arts, culture and science across the empire – would have a lasting impact on the region for centuries to come.

Timur was also, to change the subject a bit, extremely brutal and fanatical in his conquests, and that’s saying something for a Mongol ruler. One of Timur’s most brutal campaigns was staged against the Delhi Sultanate in 1398, ruled by the Tughluq dynasty from their capital at New Delhi. The Tughluqs were, according to Timur, too soft on their non-Muslim subjects, making them a fitting target for brutal conquest and enslavement.

The Battle of Delhi was short-lived and hardly noteworthy, as Timur’s forces soundly defeated Tughluq defenses and proceeded to sack the city. For weeks, up to 100,000 citizens were put to the sword, along with widespread looting, arson, rape and systematic destruction of Delhi Sultanate infrastructure. 

9. Herculaneum

The eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 79 AD has come to be associated with the city of Pompeii, as its preserved artifacts and bodies give us a visual sense of the tragedy. Most of the victims died due to the thermal shock caused by the burning hot debris and lava, though the temperature wasn’t high enough to burn them. While we wouldn’t call them ‘lucky’ by any definition of the word, they certainly got off light compared to the folks over at Herculaneum.

A Roman town settled at the base of the mountain, Herculaneum was a prosperous trading center at the time, though all that (obviously) changed on the day of the eruption. The remains here are much harder to dig up, as they’re covered in about five times the amount of ash as Pompeii. There are no well-preserved bodies, either. Only bones.

One recent study on the bones suggests that the victims died due to volcanic heat, as many of the bones have signs of fracture caused by severe heat. More disturbingly, they also found fragments of skulls. Unlike the people of Pompeii, citizens of Herculaneum were hit by a much more severe burst of heat, which made their blood boil to the point that their heads exploded. 

8. Constantinople

The Plague of Justinian – named after the Byzantine emperor Justinian I, for some reason – was the first documented outbreak of the bubonic plague caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. It was the same disease that would return to decimate the European population in the 14th century, also known as the Black Death. It was almost as deadly, too, killing about one-third of the affected population within a few months of the outbreak. 

Constantinople – now Istanbul – was the worst affected city. At its peak, the plague was claiming more than 10,000 lives per day, which was comparable to numbers recorded during the worst phases of the Black Death. The few records we have from that time describe a scene of utter horror and destruction, with scores of bodies just lying unclaimed throughout the city’s streets for months on end. 

At one point, city officials were just throwing the bodies – which were often fully covered in infectious blood and pus and had to be tied to keep all that from disintegrating – into the sea, as the cemeteries and other burial grounds were filled to the brim. 

7. Tokyo

The firebombing raids carried out across major Japanese cities at the end of WW2 are rarely, if ever, remembered in the same vein as the atomic bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The latter still provokes questions about the morality of deliberately using weapons of mass devastation against a civilian population, while the former is usually only mentioned in passing as wartime collateral damage.

Yet, the raids were as devastating and horrific as the atomic bombs – if not more so – both in scale and their intended aims: to create terror among the civilian population to force their military to surrender. The only difference was the speed of the massacre – as the atom bombs were almost instant in their execution – though that difference hardly matters to someone burning to death in the streets.

The casualty figures for the entire campaign were as high as about 387,000 civilians, out of which about 97,000 died in a matter of a six-hour period on the night of March 9, 1945. The Great Tokyo Air Raid, as it’d come to be known in the post-war period, leveled everything in a 16 square mile region of the city. Most of its structures were made up of wood and paper, intentionally chosen to inflict maximum damage to the citizenry.

A total of 1,665 tons of incendiary bombs were dropped on Tokyo that night, erupting in huge, violent walls of firestorms that trapped and burned people alive inside. People died from all sorts of reasons, too – severe burns, getting trampled under stampeding crowds, carbon monoxide asphyxiation, and even being boiled alive, as some people had taken refuge in swimming pools and other bodies of water. American pilots flying overhead reported a strong stench of burning flesh whenever they opened the hatch, along with high turbulence caused by winds generated by the firestorm. Many of the survivors that were found only managed to survive by being buried under huge piles of burning bodies, which would have been the only effective shelter against the flames at the time. 

6. Leningrad

The siege of Leningrad – now St.Petersburg – by German and Finnish forces in September 1941 was the longest siege of the war, lasting for a total of 872 days. As the previous capital of Russia, the site of the Bolshevik revolution, and the home base for the dreaded Baltic Sea fleet, the city held strategic and ideological importance for both Germany and Russia. While it was lifted by the ending stages of the war, those 872 days were perhaps one of the worst 872 days experienced by any civilian population in history.

Accurate figures are hard to come by, though even by the most conservative estimates, more than 800,000 Russians lost their lives during the siege. Extreme hunger and lack of supplies were the primary causes – it wasn’t uncommon for people to boil household items like upholstery, wood, paint off the walls or anything they could find to make a meal. Cannibalism was shockingly common, too; more than 2,000 people were arrested for eating or attempting to eat human flesh in just the first half of 1942. 

5. Jerusalem

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Romans were known for their ruthlessness on the battlefield, though their most brutal campaigns were reserved for rebelling populations. The Jewish citizens of Jerusalem had the misfortune of finding that out firsthand in 70 AD – four years after the Jerusalem riots of 66 AD that overthrew the Romans and installed a revolutionary government.

The Roman response to the rebellion also happens to be one of the darkest chapters in the history of Jerusalem. Led by Titus, the city was put under an unrelenting siege for over four months, as thousands of its citizens gradually lost their lives to famine, disease, and even cannibalism. One particularly harrowing account speaks of a woman in the streets killing and roasting her own child for a meal. When the siege was lifted, the city’s citizens were murdered or sold into slavery once the soldiers got tired of killing. 

4. Sarajevo

The Bosnian War was one of the many conflicts that erupted in the wake of the dissolution of Yugoslavia. It was marked by systematic ethnic cleansing, mass rape and a degree of brutality not seen in European warfare since WW2. Tensions from WW2 also played a prominent role, as Yugoslavia saw some of the worst violence of the war in the European theater.

One of its worst episodes was the siege of Sarajevo – the capital of the newly formed republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina – by nationalist Bosnian Serb forces in April 1992. While the war was multi-faceted and rather difficult to wrap your head around without a keen study of the region’s long history, the siege itself was quite easy to understand. 

For more than three years, Serb forces – stationed in the picturesque hills surrounding the city – bombarded the city’s population with sniper rifles, artillery shells and air strikes. Their aim was to force the Bosnian government – primarily made up of Bosniak, Croat and Serb officials – to surrender and make way for a Greater Serbian empire. 

Throughout that time, the civilians were indiscriminately bombed or shot from a distance, making everyday chores like going to the market a terrifying, life-threatening affair. By the end of it in February, 1996, the siege had claimed the lives of more than 5,000 civilians, making it the longest, deadliest siege of any city in the modern era of warfare. 

3. Warsaw

When Nazi forces invaded the Polish capital of Warsaw in October 1939, Heinrich Himmler’s orders to his officers were devilishly simple – raze it to the ground and convert it to a transport hub for the Wehrmacht, or ‘no stone to remain standing’. During the course of the next five years or so – before it was finally liberated by Soviet soldiers in January 1945 – those orders were put into effect with the sort of efficiency you only associate with Germans. 

The first Red Army soldiers into the city described a scene of complete and absolute destruction. Buildings had been systematically leveled to ensure that they can’t be repaired or built upon, and that was repeated with every structure – no matter how large or small – down to the brick. It was perhaps the only city in the war that was completely destroyed – it won’t be a stretch to say that pre-WW2 Warsaw ceased to exist during the occupation. The war – or more specifically the Nazis – turned Warsaw from a multiethnic, cosmopolitan capital to a war-torn wasteland that would take decades to completely rebuilt. 

2. Baghdad

The Baghdad of 1258, by all accounts, was a city without parallel in the known world. Easily the largest and most prosperous city in the world at the time, it was the epicenter of the Golden Age of Islam – a nearly five-century-long period of renaissance in fields like medicine, military technology, philosophy, culture, and art, among others. House of Wisdom – the city’s central library – was said to be the largest repository of knowledge ever put together in one place by that time, including knowledge that was once thought to be lost after the fall of ancient civilizations like China, India and Rome. 

Unfortunately, 1258 was also the year Hulagu Khan – a feared-yet-brilliant Mongol commander – decided that he wanted to conquer the Levant, and amassed perhaps the largest Mongol army ever put together to conquer Baghdad. This proved to be rather unnecessary, however, as the siege lasted for barely 12 days

For about a week after the conquest, Mongol soldiers raped, murdered and pillaged across Baghdad, reducing its world-class infrastructure to unrecognizable rubble. This was the fate of most Mongol adversaries that didn’t surrender and chose to fight. The Caliph himself was rolled inside a carpet and trampled to death, bringing a brutal and sudden end to the golden Islamic age, as well as the Abbasid dynasty.

By the end of it, the House of Wisdom – like most other buildings in the city – was utterly destroyed, with all of its books burned or thrown into the river Tigris. The destruction was so complete that it would be centuries before the city was even rebuilt, let alone completely restored to its former glory. 

1. Nanking

The invasion of China by Japanese forces in 1937 didn’t come as a surprise, as they had already invaded Manchuria – or northeastern China – and installed a puppet government there back in 1931. What was surprising, however, was the sheer degree of brutality and violence Chinese civilians were subjected to throughout the length of the occupation.

The Rape of Nanking – as its worst episode would come to be known – started in December, 1937, and claimed the lives of over 300,000 civilians over the next six weeks. The victims were often bayoneted to death in various ways, though beheading, disemboweling, impaling and cutting into pieces using swords was quite common, too. Rape of women of all ages was particularly widespread, and the victims were often mutilated and violently killed in the aftermath. 

Over the course of the massacre, people were buried alive, ran over by tanks, nailed to walls or burned to death. Two Japanese soldiers were even competing for the total number of people they could behead with their swords, as their exploits were regularly recorded by a photographer and published in newspapers back in Japan.

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